Legislature(1997 - 1998)

03/10/1997 01:30 PM House TRA

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 HJR 27 -  FAA "COMMUTER RULE"                                                
                                                                              
 Number 027                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS stated that the first order of business is HOUSE            
 JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 27 "Requesting the Federal Aviation                      
 Administration to grant exemptions from the 'commuter rule' in                
 order to maintain a high level of air safety and air transportation           
 service in rural Alaska."  He stated that Representative Ivan will            
 provide sponsor testimony on HJR 27.                                          
                                                                               
 Number 130                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE IVAN IVAN stated that HJR 27 will have a great                 
 impact on the economy and the travel service provided by commercial           
 airlines.  He read the Sponsor Statement into the record:                     
                                                                               
 "House Joint Resolution 27 proposes that the Federal Aviation                 
 Administration (FAA) grant specific petitions for exemption from              
 individual operators affected by the 'Commuter Rule.'  An exemption           
 would ensure that safety is not diminished because the aircraft               
 currently utilized, the Twin Otter, has a good safety record based            
 on statistics on aircraft accidents in Alaska.                                
                                                                               
 "The Commuter Rule applies to any aircraft capable of carrying ten            
 or more passengers under Part 121 of the FAA rules which applies to           
 major operators as United Airlines, Alaska Airlines and any other             
 major operators in the nation.  Twin Otters currently operate under           
 Part 135 of the FAA rules which apply to small aircraft.  The                 
 Commuter Rule will come into effect, this month, March 20, 1997.              
                                                                               
 "Rural Alaska relies totally on air transportation for passenger              
 travel and moving goods and services.  The aircraft affected by the           
 Commuter Rule is the Twin Otter which carries 10 to 19 passengers             
 and has twin-engine with turbo-props.  This aircraft has a larger             
 load capacity than a Cessna 206 or 207 and has a comparable                   
 approach speed.  The Twin Otter also has a better safety record               
 than those of smaller aircraft.  There were a total of 67 accidents           
 in 1995/1996 and seven of those occurred in ten plus seat aircraft.           
                                                                               
 "The FAA has been given specific authority by Congress to provide             
 exemptions to small air carriers in Alaska from provisions of the             
 Commuter Rule.  This resolution is requesting just that."                     
                                                                               
 Number 324                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE IVAN stated that the Commuter Rule is prompted by              
 commuter aircraft accidents throughout the lower 48.                          
                                                                               
 Number 370                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE RICHARD FOSTER stated that he ran a commuter for 20            
 years and over the years Senator Stevens has been able to get                 
 various exemptions for Alaska because of the uniqueness and                   
 difficulty of maintaining business here.  He stated that the Twin             
 Otter is used on a lot of short runs in rural Alaska.  He stated              
 that one of the provisions of the Commuter Rule is that there needs           
 to be a stewardess on board any aircraft with more that nine                  
 passengers on it.  Having a stewardess on bush runs into the arctic           
 makes it very expensive.  He stated that ERA Aviation has indicated           
 that they would withdraw from the market and ERA Aviation is, in              
 some villages, the only aircraft that flies to certain villages.              
 He stated that it would be very difficult to comply to the new                
 ruling.  He stated that he is in support of HJR 27.                           
                                                                               
 Number 500                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE KIM ELTON stated that he supports the resolution but           
 he thought David Hinson was no longer the administrator for the               
 FAA.                                                                          
                                                                               
 Number 527                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE IVAN stated that they were working with the latest             
 information and if updates are necessary, it will be changed on the           
 House Floor.                                                                  
                                                                               
 Number 536                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE BILL HUDSON asked what the timing is of the proposed           
 changeover by the FAA.                                                        
                                                                               
 Number 552                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE IVAN responded that they are eminent and he believed           
 the target date to be March 20, 1997.  He stated that some of the             
 airlines are already reacting to it.  The existing airlines that              
 are continuing to use the Twin Otters are going to take out some of           
 the seats and operate under the previous rule that has been in                
 operation.                                                                    
                                                                               
 Number 591                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE FOSTER stated that it is compounded by the fact that           
 there are not too many Twin Otters left, and they have got the                
 Medivac contract for Bethel, so by pulling out of the market, they            
 would have to be replaced by another aircraft which would result in           
 a costly process to convert them into air ambulances.                         
                                                                               
 Number 633                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE JOHN COWDERY asked what would be a typical run if              
 the aircraft was based in Bethel.                                             
                                                                               
 Number 661                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE IVAN replied the area is the size of the state of              
 Oklahoma, making milk run stops in 150 mile one-way routes.                   
                                                                               
 Number 742                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY stated by eliminating one passenger it would           
 give the opportunity for more fuel on board and asked if                      
 Representative Foster could comment on that.                                  
                                                                               
 Number 770                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE FOSTER replied that the biggest problem is the                 
 change of record keeping for maintenance.  He would foresee that              
 the airlines would have to hire a complete new staff to conform               
 because the regulations of the large commuters all conform to major           
 airline maintenance and administrative record keeping.  He stated             
 that he could not see how an operator in a village could conform              
 financially.  It would force the bush operators to sell their                 
 equipment and go back to the single engine planes.  He stated this            
 would affect safety and the ability to get Medivac aircraft.  He              
 stated that he did not see how Alaska would have the financial                
 ability to conform.                                                           
                                                                               
 Number 855                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE COWDERY stated that the probable cost to fly would             
 increase.                                                                     
                                                                               
 Number 878                                                                    
                                                                               
 JOHN KRUSE, Cape Smythe Air Service, testified via teleconference             
 from Barrow, that their main base is located in Barrow.  He stated            
 that Mr. Hinson was replaced by Guy Gardner.  He stated that Cape             
 Smythe Air Service sold their Twin Otters in 1996 because they did            
 not feel, with the Commuter Rule, it would be worthwhile to equip             
 them with the necessary equipment.  He stated that they have for              
 sale their three beechcraft planes, which are 15 passenger                    
 aircraft, because this aircraft reduced to nine passengers will not           
 compete with other piston aircraft.  He stated that the Commuter              
 Rule is requiring better communications and dispatchers that would            
 cost around 50,000 a year, in addition to the $15,000 training                
 program for each dispatcher.  He stated that there are a lot of               
 requirements that are not going to be able to be met by the                   
 operator.  He said, "we also have better or more weather                      
 requirements which has been taken care of by less and less weather            
 reporting.  We have a lack of instrument approach which means, how            
 are we going to go to these places without instrument approaches.             
 This could be done by using GPS when approved by the FAA, the                 
 target date is the year 2005."  He stated that these are a lot of             
 things that almost can't be done by the operator, at least not                
 economically.  He stated that if this rule comes into being, they             
 are going to go back to the Cessna 206 and 207 aircraft.  He stated           
 that the Commuter Rule is prohibitive to most operators.                      
                                                                               
 Number 1130                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE BEVERLY MASEK asked if besides Cape Smythe how many            
 other airlines are in Barrow.                                                 
                                                                               
 Number 1146                                                                   
                                                                               
 MR. KRUSE replied that there are two other operators in Barrow.               
                                                                               
 Number 1155                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE MASEK asked if the Twin Otters are safer to fly in             
 the rural areas compared to the Cessna 206 or 207.                            
                                                                               
 Number 1180                                                                   
                                                                               
 MR. KRUSE replied that he has been around the Twin Otters since               
 1971 and has seen very few accidents and he knows they are a lot              
 safer.                                                                        
                                                                               
 Number 1214                                                                   
                                                                               
 JOHN HAJDUKOVICH, owner, Frontier Flying Service, testified via               
 teleconference from Fairbanks, that he has owned the service since            
 1974.  He stated that the resolution should be extended beyond the            
 Bethel market.  He stated that Alaska was focused on, when the                
 Lower 48 was having the accidents, to invoke one level of safety.             
 He stated that less then 1 percent of accidents have occurred on              
 the aircraft.  He stated that to comply with the Commuter Rule                
 would be very costly and the question is whether or not the                   
 passengers will be able to afford the airfare.  He stated that they           
 have requested an extension of the implementation of the Commuter             
 Rule until Alaska can address the commuter industry within Alaska.            
 He stated that Guy Gardner replaced Tony Broderick and the acting             
 administrator is Barry Valentine.  He stated that he supports HJR
 27.                                                                           
                                                                               
 Number 1394                                                                   
                                                                               
 KIM ROSS, Executive Director, Alaska Aircraft Carriers Association,           
 testified via teleconference from Anchorage, that she is                      
 representing 190 air carrier companies and associated businesses in           
 Alaska.  She stated that with the additional economic pressures               
 that the Commuter Rule invokes, it has caused many of the carriers            
 to downsize the airplanes with less than ten seats.  Other                    
 operators are in a limbo position wondering if the obstacles                  
 created by the new rule will prohibit their ability to move into              
 the new generation of aircraft.  She stated that the Commuter Rule            
 is another instance of the federal government's inability to                  
 acknowledge Alaska's unique operating environment.  They are                  
 attempting to force Alaska to fit their mold at the expense of the            
 safety of Alaska.                                                             
                                                                               
 Number 1498                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON asked what action the association is taking             
 to drive home the essence of HJR 27.                                          
                                                                               
 Number 1570                                                                   
                                                                               
 MS. ROSS replied that the association has spent a lot of effort and           
 time in putting together a 140 page document including a pictorial            
 of all of the aviation industry around the state.                             
                                                                               
 Number 1557                                                                   
                                                                               
 JOSEPH SPRAGUE, Director of Marketing, ERA Aviation, testified via            
 teleconference from Anchorage, that ERA is the largest regional               
 airline in the state of Alaska.  In 1996 Era carried just under               
 500,000 passengers, of which a large portion were Alaskan                     
 residents.  He stated that seven villages are served from an ERA              
 base in Bethel.  He stated that ERA aviation is facing the                    
 difficult decision of reducing service to Alaska's rural                      
 communities.  He stated that ERA's Twin Otters can accommodate up             
 to 18 passengers and are currently the only twin engine, turbo                
 prop, two pilot crew airplane, flown in village service from                  
 Bethel.  He stated that due to the Commuter Rule ERA will reduce              
 the seating capacity to a maximum of nine seats.  These rules will            
 require ERA to operate the Twin Otters under the same guidelines of           
 major airlines, operating jet aircraft.  He stated that these rules           
 are appropriate for jets flying between large cities, but are                 
 completely inappropriate for a Twin Otter in bush operation.  ERA             
 has requested that the FAA grant certain exemptions from the new              
 regulation.  He stated that in 1995 the National Transportation               
 Safety Board published recommendations on approving aviation safety           
 in Alaska.  Weather reporting, communications, and use of advanced            
 navigation, were all cited as ways to improve safety and placed the           
 burden to accomplish this on the FAA and the National Weather                 
 Service.  He stated that the report did not indicate that operators           
 should use certified aircraft dispatchers as the new rules require,           
 and it did not say that each operator should supply and train a               
 weather observer, nor did suggest that smaller aircraft carriers              
 should change to different rules in the name of safety.  He stated            
 that ERA did have the intention to operate under these new rules,             
 however, it was found that it would be impossible to comply with              
 these regulations and continue to have a viable operation.  The               
 Commuter Rule will negate the safety aspect by forcing passengers             
 onto smaller aircraft that have an inferior safety record.  He                
 stated that if the Twin Otter is no longer in service in western              
 Alaska, the overall level of air carrier safety will decline.  He             
 stated that according to the FAA's statistics in 1995 and 1996                
 there were a total of 67 accidents, seven of those in ten plus seat           
 aircraft. None of the seven would have been prevented had the new             
 rule been in effect.  The concern in the decrease of safety is now            
 being expressed by the passengers that would be affected and are              
 worried about the disappearance of the Twin Otter in rural Alaskan            
 air service.  He stated that the Commuter Rule does not apply a               
 higher level of safety rather it is a different level of safety,              
 one that was designed for larger aircraft operating between sizable           
 communities.                                                                  
                                                                               
 Number 1833                                                                   
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON made a motion to move HJR 27, with individual           
 recommendations and asked unanimous consent.                                  
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE HUDSON stated that the name change of the                      
 administrator would be a technical amendment.                                 
                                                                               
 Number 1898                                                                   
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN WILLIAMS asked if there was an objection.  Hearing none              
 HJR 27 was moved out of the House Transportation Standing                     
 Committee.                                                                    
                                                                               

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